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nel`chee



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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 04:46    Post subject: cudni visitori Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote


ono... wtf?

P.S. da ovaj uzasan eksport je iz Painta

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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 06:57    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ha ha Uncle Sam is watching you...
Paranoja...

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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 07:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

mozda je to radi tvog siga
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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 08:13    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

NIsta cudno - pa koliko je tamo ljudi zaposlenih u vojsci i radi s komp. nisu roboti i oni surfaju po netu...

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nel`chee



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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 13:43    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ali na moj site Laughing

u biti... hmm i nije tako cudno, imam u galeriji slika jednu pod nazivom "hot pants"... koliko mi je ljudi doslo na site sa google frazom "hot pants gallery" Twisted Evil

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da, bit ce da je to u pitanju.

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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 16:11    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

pa ako su ti dobre statistike onda mozes vidjeti searcheve preko kojih ljudi dolaze na tvoj sajt... a mozes izvuci i svakog od tih military posjeta i, ako salju referer, mozes vidjeti otkuda su dosli i sto su searchali, sto bi rjesilo ovu misteriju
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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 17:07    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Nije nikakva misterija.
Iznad toga isto imaš US Educational,.. (.edu), to je samo takva adresa.
Ima vojska,(mislim da je .usm), goverment (.gov),.......nemora imati NIKAKVE veze sa vojskom.
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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 17:40    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nego ovaj...te hot pants.... imaš neku bolju sliku? Laughing

malo...opširniju...... Wink

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Sulien



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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 18:48    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

modovun wrote:
Nije nikakva misterija.
Iznad toga isto imaš US Educational,.. (.edu), to je samo takva adresa.
Ima vojska,(mislim da je .usm), goverment (.gov),.......nemora imati NIKAKVE veze sa vojskom.
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znači da ovaj tool za statistike ne radi IP lookup po zemljama već samo uzme domenu sa referera?? to onda nisu nikakve statistike

je'l to webalizer? izgleda poznato Think

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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 18:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sulien



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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 18:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

I'm not quite following you Confused
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nel`chee



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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 20:32    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

@Sulien: jep, Webalizer... imam i Awstats pa mogu tamo provjerit... nope, tamo nema. Samo je na vrhu USA ali nema ovih.

@silence: nemam, samo zivi model Laughing

@BS: pojasni

nisam sad skuzila, sto ne bi to trebalo znacit ciji je ISP? npr. sve sa T-com-a, CARNet-a, Iskon-a itd. strpa pod Hrvatsku, AOL i ine pod USA... a po nekoj logici Military je odvojeno od public ISP-ova i sad ne znam jel mislim dobro ili ne, ispravite me.

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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 21:03    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

e kad smo vec kod cudnih vizitora....

denite si ovo u .htaccess
Code:
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^OmniExplorer bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^EmailSiphon bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^EmailWolf bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^ExtractorPro bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Mozilla.*NEWT bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Crescent bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^CherryPicker bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^[Ww]eb[Bb]andit bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^WebEMailExtrac.* bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^NICErsPRO bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Teleport bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Zeus.*Webster bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Microsoft.URL bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Wget bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^LinkWalker bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^sitecheck.internetseer.com bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^ia_archiver bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^DIIbot bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^psbot bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^EmailCollector bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^InternetSeer.com bad_bad_bot=1
deny from env=bad_bad_bot


moja bad bad botovi lista. neki kopiraju sadrzaj, neki papaju bandwidth (obicno su ipeji iz japana), neki su u qrcu...

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nel`chee



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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 21:13    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

jelo moze to npr ovako kako ja vec imam?
Code:
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^EmailSiphon [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^ExtractorPro
RewriteRule ^.*$ - [F]

pa da na istu shemu dodam i ove

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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 21:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nel`chee wrote:
jelo moze to npr ovako kako ja vec imam?

pa da na istu shemu dodam i ove


pa je. al je setenvif + deny rule brzhi od mod_rewrite Smile

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PostPosted: 09.09.2005 22:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10.09.2005 13:30    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nel`chee wrote:
nisam sad skuzila, sto ne bi to trebalo znacit ciji je ISP? npr. sve sa T-com-a, CARNet-a, Iskon-a itd. strpa pod Hrvatsku, AOL i ine pod USA...

nakon ovoga više nisam siguran kako to webalizer gleda, ali ja redovito skidam jednu besplatnu bazu IP rangeva za sve zemlje, pohranjujem je u svoju bazu i moje statistike rade lookup po toj bazi sa svaki IP... kao i tone drugih statistika (npr awstats ima neki plugin koji se zove geoip ili nešto). Po toj metodi si otprilike 98% u pravu oko zemlje iz koje je došao request, a (koliko znam) nemoguće je 100% znati zbog raznih faktora.

Takve baze mappinga po zemljama su obično besplatne i mogu se skinuti sa ponekog sajta u obliku CSV fajla. Baze mappinga po gradovima i točnim zemljopisnim koordinatama su komercijalne i cijena im ovisi o količini informacija koje njima dobiješ. Postoji jedna nekomercijalna (nešto kao opensource projekt) baza koja radi dosta loše za HR jer jednostavno nema dosta informacija za našu zemlju, ISP-eve i sl. Aplikacija će onda pogađat iz kojeg si grada - wild guess - pa ćeš jednom biti iz Zadra, drugi put iz Varaždina, a zapravo si iz ZG.

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PostPosted: 10.09.2005 15:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

BS wrote:
ti linkovi ne štete pri rankingu, no naporni su po statistikama.


štete na nekim enginovima (je, google nije jedini), a na guglu su štetili izmedju bourbon apdejta i zadnjeg apdejta

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PostPosted: 10.09.2005 16:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11.09.2005 00:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

BS wrote:
no, nikad ne znaš, jel imaš dokaz za svoju tvrdnju?


nažalost, iz vlastitog iskustva.

Quote:
Ja osobno to još nikad nisam nigdje čuo niti vidio.


www.webmasterworld.com

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PostPosted: 11.09.2005 08:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11.09.2005 10:58    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

BS wrote:
kada kažeš iz vlastitog iskustva, znači sumnjaš da ti je netko utjecao na ban tvog sitea? ili vlastito iskustvo znači čitanje po forumu?


ne na ban već na serp positioning.

[quote="BS"]Često se zna dogodit po forumima da ljudi lažu da bi privukli pažnju Smile

ok. sad još i lažem. Smile

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