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grzzi



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PostPosted: 28.10.2005 13:53    Post subject: je li INTEL bio dobra ideja? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051026-5486.html

?P.A. Semi has just announced a dual-core 64-bit PowerPC processor SoC that, if the specs and numbers are to be believed, could take PowerPC to a whole new performance/watt level. Check out these stats, distilled from the press release:

Two 64-bit, superscalar, out-of-order PowerPC processor cores with Altivec/VMX
Two DDR2 memory controllers (one per core!)
2MB shared L2 cache
I/O unit that has support for: eight PCIe controllers, two 10 Gigabit Ethernet controllers, four Gigabit Ethernet controllers
65nm process
5-13 watts typical @ 2GHz, depending on the application


Ukratko, radi se o čipu koji izlazi krajem sljedeće godine, a koji po svemu sudeći ne samo da konkurira najboljem od INTEL/AMD najavljenog za 2006/2007 nego zvuči poprilično bolje...

Let's take a moment to step back and look at how the terrain has changed since The Switch was announced:

The 970FX was announced as a perfectly capable laptop chip.
The 970MP was announced as a solid, 64-bit RISC dual-core server/workstation chip.
Intel is taking a performance/watt beating everywhere except for the Pentium M.
Intel has just shaken up their server lineup for 2007.
PA Semi is set for a major performance/watt breakthrough in 2007 with a dual-core, 64-bit, Altivec-enabled processor that looks perfect for the Mac line.


već sad sa dual dual core powerMac om Apple ponovno ima radnu stanicu koja, dolar za dolar po performansama i tehnologiji nadmašuje sve u x86 svijetu ...

Može li biti da Jobsa više nije briga za Apple računalnu liniju, jer postaju firma koja se prije sega bavi muzikom, filmom i show biznisom generalno i na tome misle zasnivati svoj razvoj u narednim godinama ... (sjetim se njegove rečenice prije nego je došao ponovno u Apple, kad su ga pitali što bi napravio da je ponovno šef: Ubio bi Machintosh i počeo raditi the next big thing!)

ali sav taj razvoj OS-a, OSX koji je trenutno tehnološki najnapredniji sustav, i namjerava to ostati u doglednom vremenu ...

... komentari?

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PostPosted: 28.10.2005 14:26    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Dual core G5 uvjerio me da ne cekam intel mashine. Komentara nemam. Novi mac hopefully doma do kraja godine Smile A g4 vjerojatno necu ni prodavat

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Ivan Brezak Brkan



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PostPosted: 29.10.2005 08:36    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Možda je prijelaz jednostavno prijetnja IBM-u. Ipak Intel-based PC-ovi nisu najavljeni do 2007 (zapravo) za izlazak. Pitanje je kakav je dogovor između Intela i Applea, da li se radi o dogovoru iz kojeg se Apple nemože izvući ili je to samo načelni plan. Dosada su Appleovci dobro odigrali svoje karte, i ne vidim razloga zašto bi **ebali stvar na ovako krucijalnoj stvari. Ukratko, dvije su mogućnosti koje vidim, Appleovci su bili glupi i zbog kratkoročnog uspjeha riskirali sve te Appleovci su opet sve "prevarili" u pozitivnom smislu predvidjevši posljedice svoje najave, IBM-ov potez te možda čak istraživanje tržišta tj. Mac usera kako bi reagirali na prijelaz... Nadam se da je ovaj drugi potonji.
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grzzi



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PostPosted: 02.11.2005 22:20    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

lekke wrote:
Dual core G5 uvjerio me da ne cekam intel mashine. Komentara nemam. Novi mac hopefully doma do kraja godine Smile A g4 vjerojatno necu ni prodavat


From Tech Specs:
Electrical and environmental requirements
"Maximum current: At least 10A (low-voltage range) or 5A (high-voltage range)"

So are they saying max power is 10 Amps x 120 Volts = 1200 Watts!?

This would explain the change in power connector design.

Even the dual 2.7 GHZ shipped with only a 600 Watt P.S.


Napajanje je dakle 1.2 Kw (kilowata) Wow! Wow! Wow! pa to treba uzemljiti...

naravno to je maximalno dozvoljeno opterećenje ... valjda ako ukrcaš7800 karticu i tko zna što još ... ali 1200 wati napajanje Shocked

p.s. dionice su u afterhours tradingu prešle 60 dolara (predviđena prodaja 37 miliona iPodova u ovoj godini..valjda je to diglo) ... dakle, u drugom mjesecu ove godine Apple je pretekao Sony (market cap - vrijednost firme), a niti 8 mjeseci kasnije sony vrijedi 32 milijarde dolara (elektronika, filmovi, muzika ... the whole deal), a Apple je upravo prešao 50 milijardi ... damn! Twisted Evil
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grzzi



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PostPosted: 07.11.2005 21:00    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1361

Macintel laptopovi (tanji od vec najtanjih, oko 2 cm Smile - bazirani na dual core Yonnah procesorima ...) i intel macmini vec u prvom misecu? To se poklapa sa tvrdnjama da su OSX za powerPC i OSX za x86 procesore već sad identični, što znači da mogu objaviti prve x86 modele kad hoće ...


http://www.macosxrumors.com/articles/2005/11/07/apple-to-support-multi-os-boot-on-mactels/

dakle ako treba bootati se u win ili u linux (iz nekog razloga) no problem, peace of cake ...

plus preko milion novih mušterija u 2005. :
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1360

stvari izgledaju ok za 2006, ne? Razz

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PostPosted: 15.11.2005 19:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=13136

definitivno se sprema rat sa microsoftom na svim frontovima...(steve-o nudi OSX besplatno za 100$ laptop project... ali biva odbijen jerbo se traži true open source OS)

Twisted Evil

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