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djipster
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PostPosted: 20.11.2005 18:06    Post subject: Illustrator val tool Reply with quote

jelpostoji neki nacin na koji se moze napravit PRAVILNA valovita linija u illustratoru?
znaci bas da bude simetrican val sa svih strana...
tnx
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PostPosted: 20.11.2005 21:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Napravis kruznicu, presjeces je napola, zbrišeš jednu polovicu, drugu kopiras i mirroraš, kopiju povuceš dole i lijevo za iznos radiusa kruznice i weldaš (neznam kak se zove spajanje u illustratoru). Ponoviš to gro i pregršt puta i trebo bi dobit nekakav val Confused

EDIT: evo malo sam se igral z'time, pa vidi ak ti na šta liči:

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Sulien



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PostPosted: 20.11.2005 22:19    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Baš ti je ružan val Razz

Ali ako ručno radiš, princip je isti - uradiš jedan segment i ponavljaš ga

Ili uzmeš AS u ruke i napraviš funkciju y=f(x), to ti daje puno veću slobodu Cool
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PostPosted: 20.11.2005 22:22    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

loše je spaja Very Happy Very Happy . treba ići ravna linija. jedino da napraviš jedan dio kao symbol i onda staviš da se ponavalja(kao pattern )
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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 00:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

imas programe koje to rade i kompadibilni su sa illustratorom tj prave eps-ove tipa excentro idt
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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 00:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

ma znam ja za to sa spajanjem...
neg mene zanima ensto da radi bas 100% pravilnu i to pod kakvim kutevima ja ocu..
sinusoida...to me zanima
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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 01:09    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ne znam za illustrator, al u fh-u ima onaj tul koji ti automatski ravnu liniju zaobli koliko ti nju gurnes dole, toliko je on do zaobli gore... tj napravi brijeg odma do, i tako si puknes guideve lijepo iznad ili ispod i perjas, ja sam to uvijek tak radio i za cas se slozi...

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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 08:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

napravi u visual basicu pomoću formule da ti iscrtava na ekran krivulju i onda Print Screen!! Very Happy

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Sulien



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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 09:35    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ma za sinusoidu napravi funkciju sa AS

moveTo(), lineTo() i te sheme
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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 10:22    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sulien wrote:
ma za sinusoidu napravi funkciju sa AS

moveTo(), lineTo() i te sheme

ovime si nastupao u tonu, gle, ja znam kako to napraviti ali necu bas puno pomoci
vecina ljudi neznam da je AS = action script, da ti pricas o flashu niti kako napraviti da mu se generira val pomocu naredbi kojih si ti napisao (a niti poslije sa print to file dobiti rezultat skripte). dakle, djipsteru (koji kolko ja znam ne koristi flash) si pomogao nula.
komentari ovakve vrste su nepotrebni. ukoliko mozes pomoci sa gotovom skriptom, you're more than welcome
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Sulien



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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 13:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Makar se ne slažem sa tobom da ljudi (pa čak i oni koji su samo dotakli Flash) ne znaju što je skraćenica AS i da bi im trebao pisati tako trivijalan komad koda, evo pomoći u duhu foruma na tvoj način. Ja recimo nisam znao što znači CSS pa sam se svejedno potrudio saznat kad me jedan kolega pitao mogu li CSS-ati neku formu koju sam prethodno napravio (tablicama) Razz

Radimo novi movieClip sa depth 0.
Code:
var sin:MovieClip = _root.createEmptyMovieClip('sin', 0);

Centriram MC i namještam lineStyle na thickness od 1.
Code:
// move empty clip to the center
sin._x = Stage.width/2;
sin._y = Stage.height/2;
sin.lineStyle(1);

Par varijabli - grid factor sam izmislio jer ne želim da mi veličina '1' bude 1px, hoću da mi '1' bude 20px i horizontalno i okomito da funkcije budu lijepe. Safe bounds je koliko f-ja ide lijevo i desno po x osi, odnosno domena f-je.
Code:
var fx:Number = 20; // horizotnal grid factor
var fy:Number = 20; // vertical grid factor
var a:Number = Stage.width/2-20; // safe bounds
var i:Number;

F-ja sine vraća sinus od x. Ipak, tu funkciju (i ostale definirane) zovemo kroz wrapper funkciju f koja umeće grid faktore.
Code:
function sine(x:Number){
   return Math.sin(x);
}
function f(x:Number){
   // apply grid factor to function
   return sine(x/fx)*fy;
}

Možemo definirati bilo kakvu funkciju koja nam padne na pamet. Funkcija custom daje zanimljiv efekt (dakako treba promijeniti wrapper da poziva custom a ne sine) Smile
Code:
function custom(x:Number){
   return -Math.floor(x/2)/1.5;
}

Iscrtavanje od lijevog do desnog ruba metodom lineTo(x,y). Interpolacija je 0.1, može biti i finije ali nije potrebno. Kako je x=i, a y=f(x)=f(i), slijedi da pozivamo lineTo(i, f(i)):
Code:
// main part, drawing
for(sin.moveTo(i=-a, f(-a)); i<=a; i+=0.1){
   sin.lineTo(i, f(i));
}


To je to. Onaj koji se želi poigrati može ovo modificirati da koristi curveTo(), da bude animirano, itd. - ovo govorim uz rizik da me Duke opet napadne što tražim forumaše da sami nešto naprave Cool Razz

Cijeli code (staviti u prazan najviši layer na timeline-u):
Code:
var sin:MovieClip = _root.createEmptyMovieClip('sin', 0);

// move empty clip to the center
sin._x = Stage.width/2;
sin._y = Stage.height/2;
sin.lineStyle(1);

var fx:Number = 20; // horizotnal grid factor
var fy:Number = 20; // vertical grid factor
var a:Number = Stage.width/2-20; // safe bounds
var i:Number;

function sine(x:Number){
   return Math.sin(x);
}
function custom(x:Number){
   return -Math.floor(x/2)/1.5;
}
function f(x:Number){
   // apply grid factor to function
   return sine(x/fx)*fy;
}

// main part, drawing
for(sin.moveTo(i=-a, f(-a)); i<=a; i+=0.1){
   sin.lineTo(i, f(i));
}

Arrow Download: function.fla
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PostPosted: 21.11.2005 13:36    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

OK, nakon svega ovoga sam opet pročitao topic i vidio da se radi o Illustratoru a ne Flashu. Embarassed Malo sam opako zabrijao Smile

Dakle - isprike Duke-u i ostalima. Naravno da skraćenica AS ne znači ništa u Illustratoru Embarassed Fakat ne znam kako bih AS-om izgeneriranu liniju u Flashu exportao u Illustrator.

Quick Google search me naveo na ovu raspravu. Lik tvrdi da Illustrator uredno izvršava PostScript skripte pri učitavanju, trebalo bi probati. Ja bih ali nemam Illustrator tu
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PostPosted: 22.11.2005 00:02    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sulien, ak si popjo id kući lezi Smile
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PostPosted: 22.11.2005 00:33    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ajde posto neces da citas to sto sam ti napisao kojim programom se po pravilu to radi evo recicu ti kako da resis problem i sa illustratorom ali znaj da se to radi sa drugim programom, uzmes jednu ravnu liniju na line segment i nacrtas duzinu koja ti odgovara, ides gore na filter pa na distort pa na filter zigzag stavis da points bude smooth povecavas segmente i velicinu i to ti je to
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ian



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PostPosted: 23.11.2005 02:46    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ili upotrijebiš Kimbo http://members.shaw.ca/spvincent/plugins/
koji između ostalog, ima i 'Wave' koji baš radi sinusoide (a ne polovice kružnice)

ak baš moraš u illustratoru, a ne flashu (ili mathematici) lol Wink
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PostPosted: 23.11.2005 04:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

hvala svima na odgovorima..ovaj plugin se cini oke...
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PostPosted: 23.11.2005 12:43    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

/dev/null wrote:
Sulien, ak si popjo id kući lezi Smile

ma ja sam ti jedan zbunj Surprised popio sam, popio, išao sam leć... sad mi je bolje Confused
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PostPosted: 24.11.2005 13:50    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sulien wrote:
Lik tvrdi da Illustrator uredno izvršava PostScript skripte pri učitavanju

ill. normalno izvodi ps skripte. nisam probao nesto "komplicorano", ali sa skolskim primjerima nisam imao problema Confused

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Sulien



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PostPosted: 24.11.2005 18:29    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ja nikad nisam pisao/koristio ps skripte pa nisam mogao potvrditi Smile
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PostPosted: 28.03.2006 00:07    Post subject: Re: Illustrator val tool Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

djipster wrote:
jelpostoji neki nacin na koji se moze napravit PRAVILNA valovita linija u illustratoru?
znaci bas da bude simetrican val sa svih strana...
tnx


Potegneš ravnu liniju pa efekt Zig Zag.
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PostPosted: 29.03.2006 10:55    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sulien je zapravo najblizu.

Napraviš šta je on reka, flash iscrta a ti lipo PRINT to PDF. Import to AI i voila. Smile
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PostPosted: 29.03.2006 13:38    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ivan Podrug - e1 wrote:
Sulien je zapravo najblizu.

Napraviš šta je on reka, flash iscrta a ti lipo PRINT to PDF. Import to AI i voila. :)


nije. pa tomislaw je rekao kako napraviti savrseno i fino i tocno.
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PostPosted: 29.03.2006 13:49    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

a ako želiš tu sinusoidu da ti ide savršeno, od visine titraja 1 do 10 ?
ručno je blizu ali savršeno je jedino matematički.
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PostPosted: 29.03.2006 19:13    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ivan Podrug - e1 wrote:
a ako želiš tu sinusoidu da ti ide savršeno, od visine titraja 1 do 10 ?
ručno je blizu ali savršeno je jedino matematički.


tako je. savrseno je jedino matematicki, zato sam i rekao da je tomislaw jedini dao tocno rjesenje, znaci illustrator matematicki radi zig zag i napravi savrsen matematicki val.
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PostPosted: 29.03.2006 19:27    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

sorry moga greška. isprika svo troma.
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