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PostPosted: 05.02.2007 19:24    Post subject: Zašto nema na google-u? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Bok ekipo. Evo pomoću keywords,a i description sam pokuišao optimizirati stranicu za pretraživanje, ali na google-u mi ju ne nađe pod ničim od toga? www.grupa-mirakul.com je adresa pa mi recite u čemu sam pogriješio?

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PostPosted: 05.02.2007 21:08    Post subject: SEO Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

pogledaj malo pod SEO na sajtu.

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PostPosted: 05.02.2007 21:43    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Vidim da je Flash...
Iako će to neki prikazati kao glavni problem, to ne mora biti tako...

Tekstove učitavaš iz externih fileova?
Da?
Ako je tako, ubio si i ono malo mogućnosti koje Google ima za pregledavanje Flash fileova...

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PostPosted: 05.02.2007 21:54    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nisam neki strucnjak za SEO ali pocetna stranica ti ima naslov pocetna

nazovi ju Mirakul, Grupa Mirakul ili slicno i to ce imati odredjenog utjecaja kod indexiranja od strane trazilica

sami keywordi nece puno znaciti ukoliko se negdje u tekstu, kojeg ovdje nema, ne pojavljuju te iste rijeci

dosta se moze nauciti i ako procitas sta google ima za reci
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PostPosted: 05.02.2007 22:22    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ovo Google vidi kad dođe na tvoj site:
Code:
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta name="Description" content=" Grupa Mirakul">
<title>pocetna</title>
</head>

<body></body>
</html>


znači, stranicu na engleskom koja kao title ima nešto potpuno nedeskriptivno, koja ima prazan sadržaj (body) i zbog toga meta description ne igra nikakvu ulogu, što je šteta jer on jedini ima veze sa onime što je site.

tvoja domena je također nova .com domena i vjerojatno si u sandboxu, tako da ne bi bilo čudo da te nema ni da actually imaš sadržaj.
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PostPosted: 05.02.2007 23:12    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Dal onda postoji način da ja to napravim, a da se ne vidi na stranici. Ili mogu preko flasha napraviti da se vidi?

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 00:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

mozes npr. na pocetnu staviti sve tekstove i nesto slika, sve to neka bude u jednom div-u i taj div zamijenis flashom pomocu javascripta
http://osflash.org/ufo

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 11:49    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

sve ovo sto su ti vec rekli, no zna referenciranje flasha obavezan je i noembed tag. to ti dodje flashu ko "alt" slici.
unutra pukni sliku i tekst k'o da nema flasha (i vidjet ce ga samo oni koji ne vide flash znaci i google). no nemoj puno ponavljat iste rijeci ko u meta tagu jer ce mislit da spamas.

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 11:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nel`chee wrote:
mozes npr. na pocetnu staviti sve tekstove i nesto slika, sve to neka bude u jednom div-u i taj div zamijenis flashom pomocu javascripta
http://osflash.org/ufo


a i ti ga kompliciras zenoo Laughing

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 12:01    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

jel mogu napraviti html stranicu punu rijeći grupa mirakul i onda napraviti da mi automatski preusmjeri s te stranice na ovu moju... jel to izvedivo*

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 12:10    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
jel mogu napraviti html stranicu punu rijeći grupa mirakul i onda napraviti da mi automatski preusmjeri s te stranice na ovu moju... jel to izvedivo*


nemoj spamat bezveze i igrat se javascriptovima nego kako sam ti gore rekla i sajt ce ti biti cist.
evo primjera ako nije jasno
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<noembed>

<h1>Naslov mog sajta</h1>

Ovo je sajt  KEYWORD koji prdstavlja KEYWORD, bla bla bla... <br />

<a href=#lien1">link2</a><br />

<a href=#lien2">link2</a><br />

<a href=#lien2">lien2</a><br />

itd...

Sajt je napravljen KEYWORD.....

</noembed>



to ti je isto kao kad dajes alternatinu <script> <noscript>

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 12:28    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WD-WCAG10-NONW3C-TECHS-20000623/#flash

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 13:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

keye wrote:
a i ti ga kompliciras zenoo Laughing

pa i nije nesto komplicirano, a vidjela sam da je Sulien to preporucio.. valjda Suljo zna Wink

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 14:26    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

javascript je uvijek zadnja solucija Wink

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 14:35    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

keye wrote:
nel`chee wrote:
mozes npr. na pocetnu staviti sve tekstove i nesto slika, sve to neka bude u jednom div-u i taj div zamijenis flashom pomocu javascripta
http://osflash.org/ufo


a i ti ga kompliciras zenoo Laughing


Upravo suprotno. Nije komplicirano a rješenje je daleko najbolje. Ja sam isto se dosta igrao sa UFO-om i stvarno je premocna stvarcica.

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 15:07    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ajd mi objasni po cemu je upotreba javascripta najbolje rjesenje...

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 15:22    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

keye wrote:
ajd mi objasni po cemu je upotreba javascripta najbolje rjesenje...

Jer kod za embedani flash objekt ne prolazi validaciju. A ima i neki bug kod IE-a da prvo treba kliknuti na flash movie da bi mogao imati neku interakciju.
Ako se koristi JavaScript onda sve radi Smile

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 16:27    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

strija wrote:

Jer kod za embedani flash objekt ne prolazi validaciju. A ima i neki bug kod IE-a da prvo treba kliknuti na flash movie da bi mogao imati neku interakciju.
Ako se koristi JavaScript onda sve radi Smile


ali ako ga ubacis ovako
Code:
<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="movie.swf"  width="800" height="600">
<param name="movie" value="movie.swf" />
<param name="menu" value="false"/>
<param name="wmode" value="transparent"/>
<param name="i tako dalje" value="sto god treba"/>
</object>


onda prolazi validaciju
ovo sa IE nije bug, to je Microsoft nesto popusio, ne znam sad o cemu se tocno radi, a ne da mi se googlati,uglavnom ako nemas Service pack 2 toga nema, ne moras kliknuti na flash movie da bi ga aktivirao
JS je ipak dobro staviti zbog korisnika da se ne gnjave sa klikanjem na flash
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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 16:40    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sad mi više niš nije jasno. Kaj bi ja sad trebao napraviti da to prođe na googleu?

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 17:20    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Cekati Laughing
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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 17:26    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Kaj čekati?

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 17:40    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 18:06    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

a jeste dosadni, covjek nema ni doctype a vi pricate o noembedu...

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PostPosted: 06.02.2007 20:41    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

keye wrote:
nel`chee wrote:
mozes npr. na pocetnu staviti sve tekstove i nesto slika, sve to neka bude u jednom div-u i taj div zamijenis flashom pomocu javascripta
http://osflash.org/ufo

a i ti ga kompliciras zenoo Laughing

ne komplicira. ja također koristim UFO za sve jer je unobtrusive, accessible rješenje
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PostPosted: 07.02.2007 20:23    Post subject: Re: Zašto nema na google-u? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Bok ekipo. Evo pomoću keywords,a i description sam pokuišao optimizirati stranicu za pretraživanje, ali na google-u mi ju ne nađe pod ničim od toga? www.grupa-mirakul.com je adresa pa mi recite u čemu sam pogriješio?


možda su u googlu odlučili ipak zadržat nekakve standarde i ne prikazat baš sve Very Happy

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