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PostPosted: 10.05.2007 14:37    Post subject: Microsoft Silverlight Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Microsoft je napravio svoj pandan Flashu pod imenom Silverlight: http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/
(poznat je i pod prijašnjim radnim naslovom WPF/E)

Stvar je (prema demo aplikacijama koje sam vidio) na puno nižem stupnju nego Flash...
Ja osobno nemam neke vjere da će stvar biti cross-browser i cross-platform s obzirom da je riječ o Microsoftu Cool

Vaše mišljenje?

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PostPosted: 10.05.2007 15:29    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Mene prilicno nasmijao Mark Pilgrimov komentar cijele stvari:

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/05/02/silly-season

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PostPosted: 10.05.2007 15:31    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

MS je nešto uletio u neki program za razvoj linuxa.. ma oni sad pokušavaju sve i svašta... nema tu puno šanse da to dođe na razinu flasha...

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PostPosted: 11.05.2007 12:17    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Odličan (meni barem) blog post vezan uz ovu tematiku:

http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/05/10/the-high-cost-of-some-free-tools/

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PostPosted: 12.05.2007 20:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Wired-ov pregled trenutne situacije: http://www.wired.com/software/webservices/news/2007/05/open_source

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Even the software industry's most famous holdout is changing its ways to win over developers. Last week, Microsoft released the Dynamic Language Runtime component of its .Net platform, upon which Silverlight runs, under its own Microsoft Permissive License, a shared-source license based on the Mozilla Public License. The runtime component lets coders write programs in popular open-source languages like Python, PHP and Perl, then compile them to run as Silverlight applications.

This move has been welcomed by most web application developers because it enables them to continue working in their favorite scripting languages while writing code for Microsoft's platform. However, just like Adobe, Microsoft has only released the parts of its code that would let developers write for its platform -- not the rendering engine.

In the end, the old problem of vendor lock-in still looms.


fun times ahead it seems Smile

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PostPosted: 13.05.2007 12:34    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

dobio na mail
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/5/0/85096922-090d-4dfa-96b6-f74810411973/FullCut2.wmv

ne radim u flexu - flexasi, moze se ovako nesto napraviti u flexu/flashu/kakoseveczove?

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PostPosted: 13.05.2007 13:48    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
dobio na mail
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/5/0/85096922-090d-4dfa-96b6-f74810411973/FullCut2.wmv

cek, jesam dobro razumio na kraju videa, kad kaze da rezultat stackanja i trimmanja pojedinih filmica nije novi film, nego samo xml file koji opisuje sta se s videom desava?

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ne radim u flexu - flexasi, moze se ovako nesto napraviti u flexu/flashu/kakoseveczove?

i'd like to know that one too pls

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PostPosted: 14.05.2007 16:46    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Može, može... u Flash možeš naloadati sve te video clipove (u .FLV formatu) i - kao što tip kaže - trimat ih i stavit u sekvencu, a podatke za sekvencu sačuvati kao XML.

btw. ovo sve super cool izgleda, ali kužite da to nije video-editing software.. Nafilali su frpu efekata (koje imaju naravno i Flex komponente).. Nekom neupućenom ovo može biti svjetsko čudo. Rolling Eyes

Ali u praksi ovo nema nekog smisla, jer - tko bi zapravo bi išao editirati video preko weba? Uploadati pa editirati? Bottleneck cijele aplikacije je bandwidth.. Ali kao marketinški trik je odlično napravljen.. Oni koji mrze Flash zapalit će se na Siverlight. Cool

Možete ovdje pogledati što Flex može, a MS još ne može: http://www.mi3dot.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11237

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PostPosted: 14.05.2007 19:23    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Danko wrote:
Ali u praksi ovo nema nekog smisla, jer - tko bi zapravo bi išao editirati video preko weba? Uploadati pa editirati? Bottleneck cijele aplikacije je bandwidth..

ovo po meni ima jako puno smisla, s tako necim i moja mama moze uploadati filmic, obraditi ga i staviti na svoj blog.

a sad ti nauci moju mamu da premier instalira i koristi.

nemoj gledati bandwidth kao nesto danas - gledaj ono sto ce biti za 5 godina....

btw.trebao sam neki dan convertati iz AMR > [neki_slusljivi_format]. mos mislit da sam isao instalirati neki softver za to. nasao online media converter i rijesio problem.

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PostPosted: 17.05.2007 17:30    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

btw ako pričamo o filmovima u Flashu, onda treba pogledati ovo: http://leebrimelow.com/loader.html

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PostPosted: 17.05.2007 17:32    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

... a ako pričamo o performansama, onda treba pogledati Papervision 3d engine u Actionscriptu 9:

http://www.actionscriptarchitect.com/2007/02/28/flash-video-on-3d/
http://www.papervision3d.org/

Tako da mislim da MS nije niti blizu današnjim performansama Flash playera..

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PostPosted: 18.05.2007 20:47    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Hmmm.. Izgleda da i Silverlight ima 3 video ekrana koji rotiraju.. Ne znam tko je prvi ovo napravio, Adobe ili MS.. Smile
http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=116327&pvrid=4

Iako... ovo sam vidio samo kao movie clip. Nisam vidio u browseru.. Možda to ni nije Silverlight(WPF/E) nego WPF(Windows Presentation Foundation)..

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