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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 00:41    Post subject: Jel bio ovo bilo teško css-irat Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Evo htio bih napraviti jedan site koji bi se pokoravao web standardima.
Kao prvo koja je razlika između html, i xhtml. I pošto ću raditi s css-om layout (gledao sam preznetaciju na macromediji i ne izgleda prekomplicirano) u kakvom ekstenzijom da radim site, tj koji da izaberem HTML i XHTML (preporuka i objašnjenje bilo bi most welcome). Kao drugo evo basic layout dali se to da css-irat, i imate li koji tut za to, naime mući me kako se radi repeated region. I treće ako napravim layout s css znaći li to da mogu kasnije istu stvar pretvoriti u php web aplikaciju. Znam znam zelen sam što se tiće developmenta ko pupoljak u rano proljeće, but a man has got start someware.

link na sliku

E da komentari na design most welcome.

Ona žena bi trebala bit fash animacija
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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 00:43    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

slike koje su sire od layouta molimo stavljati u link a ne inkludati.
hvala!
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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 00:44    Post subject: Sorry duke Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sorry duki
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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 01:33    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Pa evo, ja ću ti dat komentar samo na dizajn sitea, budući da se u te XHTMLove i blablabla ne kužim...

Dobar odabir boja, fin raspored elemenata, ono, baš ful kul! Sviđa mi se!

BTW. možeš mi poslati na mail onaj font kojim je ispisano NIMFEA?
Moj mail je contact@blackshtef.orgOVO-VELIKO-MAKNI
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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 08:34    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

fino ce ti to izgledati u css-u.
stranice uvijek stavis u html ali ih delkariras u doctype-u kao HTML ili XHTML (i koja vrsta).
Je ti preporucujem XHTML transitional, strict je fakat previse strict barem za takve sajtove. (u trans bar mozes stavit i frame i target blank).
Razlike onako strucno sigurno ce ti bolje objasniti zyt ili chevp, ja ti mogu reci da je XHTML meni cisci (nesto kao xml), alikontaj da je to uvijek vrsta html-a sa malo vise pravila koje treba postivati. (u stvari nikad nisam validirala html pa ti ne znam reci).

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naime mući me kako se radi repeated region.

to ti nije bed bas sad radim jedan pa ti mogu poslati primjer jer mi je ful tesko to objasniti.
ali ti je isto kao sa table (onaj srednji se ponavlja a rubovi su fix).
i osnovni lay je vrlo jednostavan: umjesto tablica stavi divove i preko css-a im odredi osnovne karakteristike.

tutoriala ima brdo ali meni najbolji oni sa w3 i sve sto radis odmah na validator, na greskama najbrze i najbolje naucis a usput validator ti kaze tocno sto ti ne valja.

cek da nadjem koji tut pa se cujemo (a mozda ti uleti i netko drugi) Smile

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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 10:04    Post subject: La la Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

@Kaye: Šalji
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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 10:45    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

evo ono sto najcesce upotrebljavam

http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
http://www.constile.org/tutorial/progettare_con_stile
http://www.htmldog.com/

bon travail! Smile

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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 13:15    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Tnek ju
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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 14:31    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ovaj topic je bas ono sto i meni treba...
Naime i ja sam razmisljao napravit site u cssu, xhtmlu i svim tim standardima.
Al sve mi se to cini full tesko iako vjerojatno nije.

Ak netko ima jos kakvih linkova na tutoriale sam nek da! Smile


Raytech, dizajn je bas dobar, svidja mi se... Neznam kaj bih drugo reko...
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PostPosted: 26.06.2004 15:02    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

dag wrote:

Al sve mi se to cini full tesko iako vjerojatno nije.

...


nije uopce tesko, samo treba odluciti i napraviti prvi Wink

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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 11:55    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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htio bih napraviti jedan site koji bi se pokoravao web standardima.

gl :)

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Kao prvo koja je razlika između html, i xhtml. I pošto ću raditi s css-om layout (gledao sam preznetaciju na macromediji i ne izgleda prekomplicirano) u kakvom ekstenzijom da radim site, tj koji da izaberem HTML i XHTML (preporuka i objašnjenje bilo bi most welcome).


razlike imas dobro objasnjene ovdje - http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#diffs
ekstenzija nije bitna, moze html, moze php, moze i mirko (ak tako konfiguriras server:)
no dobro, da ne serem, bitna razlika je doctype i to je ono sto browseru govori kako je pisana stranica (to isto imas opisano na gornjem linku)

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Kao drugo evo basic layout dali se to da css-irat, i imate li koji tut za to, naime mući me kako se radi repeated region. I treće ako napravim layout s css znaći li to da mogu kasnije istu stvar pretvoriti u php web aplikaciju. Znam znam zelen sam što se tiće developmenta ko pupoljak u rano proljeće, but a man has got start someware.


tvoj layout je jednostavan i trebo bi ga bez nekih vecih problema napravit u css-u. tutorial nazalost nemam, ali ti mogu prepocuciti www.alistapart.com kao odlican site koji se izmedju ostaloga bavi i tom tematikom.

sto se tice repeated region... sve je isto osim sto ne generiras tablice nego <div> elemente.

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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 14:20    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

A se može DW nekak konfigurirati da automatski piše xhtml umjesto html?
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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 15:29    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

dag wrote:
A se može DW nekak konfigurirati da automatski piše xhtml umjesto html?


malo primjera:
strict xhtml ne podnosi i frame, ne podnosi target blank, i for example tag <br> mu nije drag. (sve tagove treba zatvoriti, dakle <br/>) osim toga xhtml je lowercase.
sad ti zamisli kakav kod ti moze napisati dw....

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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 15:46    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

dag wrote:
A se može DW nekak konfigurirati da automatski piše xhtml umjesto html?


Yep... ALA's Modifying Dreamweaver to Produce Valid XHTML - http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dreamweaver/

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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 15:56    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

A jel transitional podnosi iframeove i target blank?

Tenks red, pogledat cu to. Wink
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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 19:42    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

dag wrote:
A jel transitional podnosi iframeove i target blank?
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yessssssss

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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 19:48    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Greaaaat! Smile
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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 19:55    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

red wrote:
dag wrote:
A se može DW nekak konfigurirati da automatski piše xhtml umjesto html?


Yep... ALA's Modifying Dreamweaver to Produce Valid XHTML - http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dreamweaver/


Exclamation thanx!

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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 20:15    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

keye wrote:
red wrote:
dag wrote:
A se može DW nekak konfigurirati da automatski piše xhtml umjesto html?


Yep... ALA's Modifying Dreamweaver to Produce Valid XHTML - http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dreamweaver/


Exclamation thanx!


*bows* Na usluzi Smile

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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 22:04    Post subject: La la Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

@ Che: Kak narikatas da bude mirko? Laughing
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PostPosted: 27.06.2004 22:12    Post subject: Re: La la Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

raytech wrote:
@ Che: Kak narikatas da bude mirko? :lol:


pomocu trikova :)

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PostPosted: 28.06.2004 00:30    Post subject: LA la Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

A da ga recimo nazovem Štefica jer onda kompliciranije. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 28.06.2004 02:27    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

red wrote:
dag wrote:
A se može DW nekak konfigurirati da automatski piše xhtml umjesto html?


Yep... ALA's Modifying Dreamweaver to Produce Valid XHTML - http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dreamweaver/


Kolko vidim DW MX 04 sve to sam napravi ak se odabere "Make document XHTML compliant" opcija...
Less work for me! Smile
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PostPosted: 28.06.2004 19:05    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

A jel? Fino... Nisam znao, prestao apdejtat DW prije par godina.

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PostPosted: 29.06.2004 08:46    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

za ekstenziju .mirko treba u .htaccess-u dodati:
Code:
AddType text/html .mirko
AddHandler server-parsed .mirko
Štefica ne bi funkcionirala zbog znaka Š

XHTML transitional je "komercijalni" XHTML (što u mojem riječniku znači za pomodarce), a u preporukama za Strict su s razlogom izbačeni iFrame-ovi i target sranja, jer onemogućuju kontrolu nad browser-om i lome funkcionalnost u nekim slučajevima. Kodiranje u XHTML nema smisla, ako se ne razumije funkcija određenih tagova i atributa. Kod može proći na validatoru, ali ako nije upotrebljen u skladu sa sadržajem koji definira, nema se smisla baš niti mučiti oko učenja. Razlika između HTML-a i XHTML-a nije tablica vs. layer, već oblik vs. smisao. Prije učenja XHTML-a bilo bi dobro proučiti usability i accessibility, a tek onda krenuti u proučavanje tagova.

Site iz ovog primjera se može bez problema zakodirati u XHTML Strict, jer je i sadržajno jednostavan. Sa točke HTML/CSS kodera, prikazano može biti gotovo za jedno popodne..
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