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Ivan Brezak Brkan



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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 10:09    Post subject: Xeogaming Lite Edition Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Evo lite verzija sitea na kojem sad designer... Još treba CSS srediti i sam content, stoga nemojte na to obraćati previše pozornosti Smile... www.xeogaming.com/lite/! Wink
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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 11:45    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Neznam, na mojih 1280 mi je nekak premalen (za gaming site fkorz). Previse mi ove narancaste (opet zato jer mi sajt nije velik na mojih 1280?)
Nekako mi djeluje nedoradeno, a i s neke strane mi se svidja Very Happy
neznam sta bih ti reko, probaj prosirit....

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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 13:30    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nisam vjerovo da ce doc ovaj dan i sa gustom cu ti ovo rec:
sajt ti se raspada u IE-u
mwahaha Twisted Evil

oke, ajmo sa rivjuom sajta.

sajtic je totalno lite i to mi je fora. bar se sve vidi kak spada, no mozda je mrvicak premali.
linkovi u news skripti - plavo? hm, daj probaj neku narandjastu boju nabacit, imho bit ce bolje.
sad, ovaj desni meni - sto znaci latest posts? to su postovi sa foruma ili kaj? zasto nisi napravio linkove od toga pa da vidis kak ce to zgledat kad su linkovi tamo?

sto ako ti se dogodi ono kaj sam te pitao prije - netko napise naslov clanka koji ce biti predugacak pa ce ti se prelamat redovi?
jos jedna stvar - sajt ti se sastoji od 5 kategorija ako ne ukljucimo forum. pa mogo si i njih dizajnirat i dat na review citav sajt a ne samo komadic pa da vidimo kako bi se taj sajt ponasao kad bi bilo zadrzaja.

nista, oke ti sve izgleda, samo daj malo linkove sredi i pogledaj kak ti se sajt ponasa u IE-u.
i najvaznije - DAJ DOVRSI BAR OVAJ SAJT Exclamation

eto, tolko od mene zasad.
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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 15:41    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

@2312: Lite verzija....

@maxy: Rekoh da CSS nije sređen. Site nije moj, samo ga designam Wink
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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 15:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Meni pokazuje "The page cannot be displayed"
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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 20:29    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

bozob wrote:
Meni pokazuje "The page cannot be displayed"


Meni radi ^^
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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 21:46    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

<html>
<head>
<title>XeoGaming - Lite Edition 0001</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<style type="text/css">
<!--

A:link
{ text-decoration: none; color:#767676; font-weight: bold; font-size: 11px; font-family: verdana; }
A:visited
{ text-decoration: none; color:#767676; font-weight: bold; font-size: 11px; font-family: verdana; }
A:active
{ text-decoration: none; color:#767676; font-weight: bold; font-size: 11px; font-family: verdana; }
A:hover
{ text-decoration: none; color:#B5B5B5; font-weight: bold; font-size: 11px; font-family: verdana; }

td {font-family:Verdana; font-size:11px; color:#000000}
body {font-family:Verdana; font-size:11px; color:#000000; background: url(images/bg.jpg); margin: 0}

.whitebox {padding-left:5px; padding-right:5px; padding-bottom:3px}

-->
</style>
</head>
<body>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="763">
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="5" width="763"><img src="images/lite_01.jpg" border="0" width="338" height="103" alt="" /> </td>

</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="2" width="452"><img src="images/lite_02.jpg" border="0" usemap="#navbar" width="452" height="41" alt="" /> </td>
<td valign="top" colspan="3" width="311"><img src="images/lite_03.jpg" border="0" width="311" height="41" alt="" /> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" rowspan="4" background="images/lite_04.jpg" width="17"></td>
<td valign="top" rowspan="4" background="images/lite_05.jpg" width="435"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="whitebox" width="100%">

<tr>
<td valign="top" width="100%"><!-- START Content -->
<!-- END Content -->
</td>
</tr>
</table></td>
<td valign="top" rowspan="3" background="images/lite_06.jpg" width="41">&nbsp; </td>
<td valign="top" background="images/lite_07.jpg" width="262" height="20"><img src="images/lite_07_top.jpg" border="0" width="262" height="3" alt="" />

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="whitebox" width="100%">
<tr>
<td width="100%" height="60" valign="top"><!-- START Latest Articles -->
<a href="articles.php?id=29">Final Fantasy XII...</a><br><a href="articles.php?id=28">Ragnarok Online...</a><br><a href="articles.php?id=27">FFVII: Advent Children...</a><br><a href="articles.php?id=26">Mario Golf:Toadstool Tour...</a><br><a href="articles.php?id=25">Perimeter...</a><br>
<!-- END Latest Articles --></td>
</tr>
</table></td>

<td rowspan="3" background="images/lite_08.jpg" width="8"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" background="images/lite_07.jpg" width="262" height="23"><p><img src="images/lite_09.jpg" border="0" width="262" height="16" alt="" /><br>
<img src="images/lite_10_top.jpg" border="0" width="262" height="5" alt="" /></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="168" rowspan="1" valign="top" background="images/lite_10.jpg"><table height="168" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="whitebox" valign="top">

<tr>
<td width="260" height="110" valign="top">
<a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/240.html">PhotoShop CS...</a> (4)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/238.html">DOOM 3...</a> (1)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/237.html">Far Cry: Insticts...</a> (1)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/235.html">Far Cry...</a> (5)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/234.html">Gah Don't bite me...</a> (7)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/233.html">Dark Art - &quot; Demon Girl...</a> (10)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/232.html">I am a Killer...117...</a> (1Cool<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/231.html">New AIM SN........</a> (Cool<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/230.html">Moonwell?...</a> (9)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/227.html">KOTOR II: The Sith Lords...</a> (Cool<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/226.html">Slipknot concert on august 1...</a> (5)<br><a href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/showtopic/225.html">GTA: San Andreas...</a> (3)<br> </td>

</tr>
</table></td>
</tr>
<tr valign="top">
<td valign="top" background="images/lite_14.jpg" colspan="3" width="311"><img valign="top" src="images/lite_12.jpg" border="0" width="311" height="56" alt="" /> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top" colspan="5" width="763"><img valign="top" src="images/lite_13.jpg" border="0" width="493" height="24" alt="" /> </td>

</tr>
</table>
<map name="navbar">
<area href="index.php" shape="rect" coords="123, 16, 157, 29" />
<area href="http://www.xeogaming.com/forums/" shape="rect" coords="168, 16, 212, 29" />
<area href="articles.php?cat=review" shape="rect" coords="223, 16, 268, 29" />
<area href="articles.php?cat=preview" shape="rect" coords="279, 16, 329, 29" />
<area href="articles.php?cat=editorial" shape="rect" coords="340, 16, 390, 29" />
<area href="#" shape="rect" coords="401, 16, 435, 29">
</map>
</body>
</html>


Po meni loše.
Nema doc-type, tablice, tablica u tablici, linkovi u gifu, <br> umjesto <br/> ...

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PostPosted: 05.08.2004 21:49    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

I imaš hrpe gifova u tablici Shocked

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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 03:36    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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Po meni loše.
Nema doc-type, tablice, tablica u tablici, linkovi u gifu, <br> umjesto <br/> ...


ovo si reko ko voditelj na Opera box (brijem da se zove tak emisija)
Glazba u glazbi, mala opera u vecoj etc (neznam sta je mljeo.... bilo je smijesno Very HappyD).

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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 07:10    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Meni se jako dopada, i boje su super.

Desni deo sajta je po meni prazan - ali ipak je ovo lite verzija ne?! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 07:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

e fort, mali ti je site. Smile))) obrati pozornost na TI as in - TVOJ SITE. Smile))
al ajde, cekaj da nekaj pametno skomentiram.

Izgleda.. dunno, malo. Smile) Ne joke, ajd stvarno, mali je site. Smile

Po mojem misljenju, site izgleda malo i ok, pregledan (za sada) i jednostavan,
nema previse rada mozga vec je sve (za sada) na dohvat (mali site) ruke.

Inace mi se ne svidjaju ovi "Winamp Skin-Like" (mali ti je site) siteovi.
Very Happy

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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 10:24    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

@damir: Poručiti ću programeru... ^^

Hvala ostalima... Wink
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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 11:12    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Evo sada je site otvoren: www.xeogaming.com... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 11:53    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

fort, sajt se opet raspada u ie-u...ne znam tko radi sto na njemu - sajt se raspada.

- forum - pa cek, zasto je layout foruma TOLIKO drukciji od main pagea? kao da sam otisao na drugu stranicu a ne na xeogaming.

odem na http://www.xeogaming.com/articles.php?id=32 i vidim:
- tablica sa borderom
- nema paddinga, sve priljepljeno uz rubove..must fix.

latest posts:
- zasto je toliki razmak od vrha? izgleda ruzno..
kad odes ovdje: http://www.xeogaming.com/articles.php?cat=preview onda latest post izgleda ok. stavi valign = top na sve..

- bilo bi dobro da kada imas nekakvu listu sa linkovima da stavis numbered listu ili alternirajuce redove (svjetlije - tamnije) tako da upadne u oci lakse.

sto je sa "about" rubrikom? to ste ostavili tamo sa linkom #..mislim, radje onda maknite about i dodajte ga kasnije. i FIXAJTE onaj vrazji redak od par pixela koji se raspada Smile
stvarno zasu zgleda.

e da, ovo sve navedeno nije neko pljuvanje neg savjeti za popravke i smjernice. inace mi je sajt ok, minimalistican totalno i mogli bi ga jos optimizirat da se i na modemima ucita brzo.


za kraj:
damir, zasto je po tvom misljenju lose imati nestane tablice? cisto me zanima iz radoznalosti. Cool
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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 12:00    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

maxy wrote:

e da, ovo sve navedeno nije neko pljuvanje neg savjeti za popravke i smjernice.


Od tebe i ne očekujem drugo... Smile
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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 12:17    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sve je već rečeno možda.. meni se eto osobno sviđa, samo ga centriraj malo da se ne lijepi za lijevi rub ekrana; boli me vrat dok na 1600x1200 moram buljit lijevo.

Narančasta boja mi je malo prejaka. Možda da je ubiješ malo? Nešto više pastelno?

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za kraj:
damir, zasto je po tvom misljenju lose imati nestane tablice? cisto me zanima iz radoznalosti.

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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 13:18    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Vidjet ću što se da učiniti.. Wink thenkjuz badiz
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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 17:33    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Lite verzija mi je tak-tak
aplodaj onu full jebo... ona mi je super

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PostPosted: 06.08.2004 18:42    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

2312 wrote:
Lite verzija mi je tak-tak
aplodaj onu full jebo... ona mi je super


shhhhhh god damnit!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 07.08.2004 01:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

OOPS
ehhm mislio sam APLODAJ onu onak FULL, da nebude bugova Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Razz

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PostPosted: 07.08.2004 19:48    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

maxy wrote:

za kraj:
damir, zasto je po tvom misljenju lose imati nestane tablice? cisto me zanima iz radoznalosti. Cool


http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html

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PostPosted: 07.08.2004 20:07    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

damir wrote:
http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html


zao mi je sto ti moram rec da se na tome linku nigdje ne opisuje kako u roku 2 minute pomocu CSS-a i bez client side tehnologije stvoriti prikaz u 2 retka i 6 kolumni.
osim tog clanka koji je totalno subjektivan (ne istice prednosti tablice niti se ne osvrce na tablicne podatke), imas li svoje stajaliste ili se slijepo pridrzavas "pravila" sa te stranice?

jos uvjek TI nisi istaknuo zasto je tablica losa, a nisi naveo niti alternativu tablici sa konkretnim primjerom.
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zao mi je sto ti moram rec da se na tome linku nigdje ne opisuje kako u roku 2 minute pomocu CSS-a i bez client side tehnologije stvoriti prikaz u 2 retka i 6 kolumni.


To nije ni poanta tog članka. Ako te zanima kako to napraviti vidi
http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/boxes.html

Logika je ista za bilo koji broj redaka i stupaca. I nije baš dvije minute ali skoro Smile

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osim tog clanka koji je totalno subjektivan (ne istice prednosti tablice niti se ne osvrce na tablicne podatke), imas li svoje stajaliste ili se slijepo pridrzavas "pravila" sa te stranice?


Onda nisi pročitao dio Things tables do better than CSS.
Naravno da imam svoje stajalište. Jako se podudara sa tim člankom, pa sam ga zato i naveo Cool

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jos uvjek TI nisi istaknuo zasto je tablica losa, a nisi naveo niti alternativu tablici sa konkretnim primjerom.


Zašto bi to ja morao istaknuti kad ima hrpa pametnijh ljudi od mene koja je do toga došla prije mene. Meni je dovoljno pročitati par dobrih članaka, provjeriti kako to radi u praksi i kraj. Sigurno neću pokušati napisati alternativu za XHTML i CSS standarde kad sasvim dobro rade i zadovoljan sam s njima.

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PostPosted: 07.08.2004 21:32    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

damire: nije uvijek novije rjesenje nuzno i bolje.
nije objekto programiranje nuzno bolje od proc. (sporije je)
itd..

uglavnom.. css nije uvijek bolji od tablica.

pravi , sposoban developer zna kada mu treba odredena stvar i kada je nesto jednostavno overkill.

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PostPosted: 07.08.2004 21:38    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

damir wrote:
Zašto bi to ja morao istaknuti kad ima hrpa pametnijh ljudi od mene koja je do toga došla prije mene. Meni je dovoljno pročitati par dobrih članaka, provjeriti kako to radi u praksi i kraj. Sigurno neću pokušati napisati alternativu za XHTML i CSS standarde kad sasvim dobro rade i zadovoljan sam s njima.


meni tablica sasvim dobro radi i nekad ima manje markupa nego sa divovima.
osim tog, trebo si ti navesti zasto je koristiti tablicu glupo a ne dati link na neke clanke koji linkaju na druge clanke i tako dalje pa nek citamo po pol sata i natezemo se.. Smile

osim tog, mislim da je daleko lakse srediti layout tablicom nego css-om tako da je ovaj clanak kojeg si tao po meni presubjektivan sto mi nije dobro. gotovo da su tablice raspete na kriz.


btw. pogledaj ovaj link: http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/basic3_2.html

i probaj si suziti browser malo pa da vidis kak se divovi prekrasno overlapaju. a pogle i kolicnu css-a koja je potrebna da se to slozi Cool

mislim da je
<table cellspacing="0" cellpading="0">
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
</table>

daleko manje od:
#left {
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
left: 0px;
margin: 20px;
padding: 10px;
border: 5px solid #ccc;
background: #666;
width: 150px; /* ie5win fudge begins */
voice-family: "\"}\"";
voice-family:inherit;
width: 120px;
}
html>body #left {
width: 120px; /* ie5win fudge ends */
}
#middle {
margin: 20px 190px 20px 190px;
padding: 10px;
border: 5px solid #ccc;
background: #666;
}
body>#middle {
float: left; /* required by N6.01Win,
and must be hidden from IE5Win. */
}
#right {
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
right: 0px; /* Opera5.02 will show a space
at right when there is no scroll bar */
margin: 20px;
padding: 10px;
border: 5px solid #ccc;
background: #666;
width: 150px; /* ie5win fudge begins */
voice-family: "\"}\"";
voice-family:inherit;
width: 120px;
}
html>body #right {
width: 120px; /* ie5win fudge ends */
}

i nakon toga: <div id="middle">

sto je daleko vece od <td></td>.

i rest my case.
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