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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 19:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

ne znam da sam majstor ali 1080 (to my last knowledge) po vertikali...

daklem, ako to nemres postic na monitoru - guess what - smanjit ce ti rezu - neeeee, pas mater, a na telki se ne zalis kaj DVD gledas u 480 pix?
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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 19:41    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 19:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

stripe wrote:
ne znam da sam majstor ali 1080 (to my last knowledge) po vertikali...

daklem, ako to nemres postic na monitoru - guess what - smanjit ce ti rezu - neeeee, pas mater, a na telki se ne zalis kaj DVD gledas u 480 pix?


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* 720p - 1280x720 pixels progressive
* 1080i - 1920x1080 pixels interlaced
* 1080p - 1920x1080 pixels progressive


daj mi MOLIM TE objasni kak monitor sa 1600x1200 ne može postići 1080 po vertikali?
znaš....1600 je širina, a 1200 je visina(vertikala)

ne znam kolko si imao iz matematike, ali 1200 - 1080 = 120.... IMA ČAK I VIŠKA.....

imam jedan savjet, između ušiju imaš neki kurac, po ovom pitaj boga kaj je, ali ako imalo sliči mozgu, daj ga pliz upotrijebi....
ono.... stvarno si me sjebo pokazujući da se 1080 pixela ne može prikazati na monitoru koji podržava 1200.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

mislim da nema dosta ovih rollova za tebe....

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:04    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

još jedna stvar.... koju očito niko ne kuži.... možete imati monitor koji podržava BILO KOJU rezoluciju, ali da bi gledali HD morate kupiti novi sa čipom koji to dozvoljava....

ne znam kolko je to teško shvatit, ali eto.... NIJE STVAR U REZOLUCIJI, NEGO U ČIPU KOJI ĆE SE UGRAĐIVAT. možeš imat monitor 1600000000x120000000 i opet će to Vista sjebat slika jer NEMAŠ čip.....

kaj je to tak teško shvatit?

tečajevi iz engleskog koštaju 100 kn/sat....
tečajevi iz korištenja mozga koštaju 2000/sat....

prijave na PM

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:22    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

1920 horizontalno nemaju monitori ispod 23" ...

valjda svi HD monitori imaju taj "chip" ne?

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:28    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Eo uspio si me natjerat da nesto i procitam na temu novih windowsa:
http://news.com.com/FAQ+Vistas+strong,+new+antipiracy+protections/2100-1025_3-5844071.html

i sada sam uspio zakljucit (sa onim kurcem izmedju usiju) da sam, nevjerojatno koliko to zvuci, bio u pravu

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Vista does have one workaround that will let these monitors and TVs operate, however. If the analog (VGA, or Video Graphics Array) plug is all that is available, for example, the operating system has features that will reduce the resolution of the video, and then recode it on the fly. The result will be video that's slightly fuzzier, without the high resolution of the original, but the video will be watchable at about the quality of today's DVDs.


e sad, cini se da ti ili ne znas engleski kao sto si mislio ili je ono drugo, dajem ti na odabir...
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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:29    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

silence wrote:
i opet će to Vista sjebat slika jer NEMAŠ čip.....


ajde pročitaj moj post (zadnji na drugoj strani) jer mi se čini da si ga propustio...
Vista N E M A veze s tim!!!!
Hello?

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:30    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

stripe wrote:
Eo uspio si me natjerat da nesto i procitam na temu novih windowsa:
http://news.com.com/FAQ+Vistas+strong,+new+antipiracy+protections/2100-1025_3-5844071.html

i sada sam uspio zakljucit (sa onim kurcem izmedju usiju) da sam, nevjerojatno koliko to zvuci, bio u pravu

CNet wrote:

Vista does have one workaround that will let these monitors and TVs operate, however. If the analog (VGA, or Video Graphics Array) plug is all that is available, for example, the operating system has features that will reduce the resolution of the video, and then recode it on the fly. The result will be video that's slightly fuzzier, without the high resolution of the original, but the video will be watchable at about the quality of today's DVDs.


e sad, cini se da ti ili ne znas engleski kao sto si mislio ili je ono drugo, dajem ti na odabir...
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Dajte ljudi do Viste ima pun kurac i osamsto i izminjat će se dosta toga...
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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:32    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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19 inch monitor SAMSUNG SM997MB
Magic Bright
TCO03
1920x1440@64Hz
96kHz
digital
0.20mm
1280x1024@85Hz


dalje?
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Bandwith 345 MHz
Resolutions 1920 x 1440 / max. 86 Hz
1600 x 1280 / max. 97 Hz
1600 x 1200 / max. 104 Hz
1480 x 1024 / max. 122 Hz
1280 x 1024 / max. 122 Hz
1024 x 768 / max. 162 Hz


iiyama 19''......

anybody else?

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:32    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:34    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

jurka wrote:
stripe wrote:
Eo uspio si me natjerat da nesto i procitam na temu novih windowsa:
http://news.com.com/FAQ+Vistas+strong,+new+antipiracy+protections/2100-1025_3-5844071.html

i sada sam uspio zakljucit (sa onim kurcem izmedju usiju) da sam, nevjerojatno koliko to zvuci, bio u pravu

CNet wrote:

Vista does have one workaround that will let these monitors and TVs operate, however. If the analog (VGA, or Video Graphics Array) plug is all that is available, for example, the operating system has features that will reduce the resolution of the video, and then recode it on the fly. The result will be video that's slightly fuzzier, without the high resolution of the original, but the video will be watchable at about the quality of today's DVDs.


e sad, cini se da ti ili ne znas engleski kao sto si mislio ili je ono drugo, dajem ti na odabir...
Applause


ti gledaj fuzzier.....
blago tebi....

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:36    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

jurka wrote:
silence wrote:
i opet će to Vista sjebat slika jer NEMAŠ čip.....


ajde pročitaj moj post (zadnji na drugoj strani) jer mi se čini da si ga propustio...
Vista N E M A veze s tim!!!!
Hello?


ne? a koji dio kompa provjerava jel postoji čip i koji dio kompa smanjuje rezoluciju?
matična?....ummm..........ne?
napajanje?.....ummmmm...........ne?
USB?....ummmmm............ne?
ethernet?....ummmm...........ne?

onda kaj?.... magija? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:39    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Stvarno neznam ko je od vas jebeno bolesniji.

Dajte se ohladite.

Silence udri desanku i marš spavat. Opalićeš ( ako več nisi ) na živce
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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:44    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

feelfree wrote:

Silence udri desanku i marš spavat. Opalićeš ( ako več nisi ) na živce


već jesam, ovo mi je terapija.... Laughing

BTW :: ja im samo pokazujem da nisu u pravu.... ja imam municije.... na bacanje Cool

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 20:49    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

silence wrote:
Quote:
19 inch monitor SAMSUNG SM997MB
Magic Bright
TCO03
1920x1440@64Hz
96kHz
digital
0.20mm
1280x1024@85Hz


dalje?
Quote:

Bandwith 345 MHz
Resolutions 1920 x 1440 / max. 86 Hz
1600 x 1280 / max. 97 Hz
1600 x 1200 / max. 104 Hz
1480 x 1024 / max. 122 Hz
1280 x 1024 / max. 122 Hz
1024 x 768 / max. 162 Hz


iiyama 19''......

anybody else?


je imash pravo more i na nekom 21-22 incheru...
tija sam samo reci da je gledanje u tu Ilyamu na toj rezi ravno gledanju u sunce Smile

to sa chipom josh nisam ubra, daj malo to josh elaboriraj Laughing

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 21:14    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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je imash pravo more i na nekom 21-22 incheru...
tija sam samo reci da je gledanje u tu Ilyamu na toj rezi ravno gledanju u sunce Smile

to sa chipom josh nisam ubra, daj malo to josh elaboriraj Laughing

G.


jednostavno, ako ti monitor....bio 17'' ili 117'' nema čip, a trenutno se NIJEDAN ne proizovdi s tim čipom, kad ćeš recimo htjeti gledat HD u punoj raskoši, Vista će ti smanjiti rezoluciju.
Možda to nekome ne znači niš (neki gledaju i CAMove di se čuje ekipa u kinu kak komentira film), ali ako platiš/Iznajmiš HD DVD recimo i staviš ga u Vista pokretan komp.....
zaboravi na HD.....

nema, nada,nula.zero,ništa.... Vista, a ne hardware, ti smanji rezoluciju.
to je samo DIO DRM (Digital Rights Management) koji će biti ukomponiran u Vistu.
ima još hrpa stvari o kojima neću ni počinjat..... i to nisu postovi na nekim blogovima, nego službene izjave M$ predstavnika.....

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He did admit that a lot of the moves were designed as a sop to the film industry and Vole is working with Walt Disney, Sony, and Twentieth Century Fox Film to make sure they are happy.

The more secure content system will sit in the Protected Media Path and will mean that any high-definition media will be securely escorted through the operating system to a high-definition TV screen or other media output device.

Vista will have user-mode and kernel-mode protection to digital media content, such as Protected Video Path (PVP) and Protected User Mode Audio (PUMA).

Microsoft thinks that this will make sure that content cannot be stolen even if it is transcoded from one format to another, which makes it hard for a pirate to siphon off the signal.


ovo je u softwareu....

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ONE OF the 'features' touted on the new Microsoft Vista (nee Longhorn) operating system is the Protected Video Path - Output Protection Management (PVP-OPM). Nick Farrell does an excellent job outlining it here. Here is what Microsoft has to say: New output content protection mechanisms planned for the next version of Microsoft® Windows® codenamed "Longhorn" protect against hardware attacks while playing premium content and complement the protection against software attacks provided by the Protected Environment in Windows Longhorn. In a nutshell, unless you have a display device that is equipped with specific technology intended to foil recording, the operating system will degrade the image quality so bit for bit copies cannot be made. Sounds good, right? Well, considering that almost NO monitors are currently shipping with this technology, it means that if you want to view a movie off a HD-DVD as it is encoded, or stream HD content from a Blue-Ray disk to a display, the operating system will kill the video outputs and give you nothing. If you are lucky enough, like me, to have a projector that can handle RGB signals or DVI inputs, you can get a signal but it will be run through a downscaler then an upscaler to reduce the quality. Wow. If I am running a projector or a TV off video outputs I'll see nothing? If I am lucky enough to have a set that will allow for RGB or DVI I can pay for the privilege of having my 720p or 1080i signal degraded to DVD quality or less? Where do I sign? Paid a premium for a graphics card with component output to reap the rewards of that Hi-Def set? Too bad. Isn't technology wonderful? Because of the nature of the technology, it is very unlikely that some widget or gizmo will be made to make the system compliant outside of buying a new monitor. Outside of cracking the OS (which is bound to happen) to turn off this 'feature', the end user is going to end up on the short end of the stick. The irony is that most content ripping software doesn't rely on video outputs and they strip the protections on the fly. After that point the content should no longer be viewed as 'premium', and the protection becomes useless. In the white paper on the Microsoft link above, the folk talk about the problems of open systems (a PC) versus a closed system (discrete DVD player) and how the end user can't upgrade or change the closed system. This seems to be the end goal - create an operating system that will create a closed system. The fact is that this 'feature' serves to hurt the consumer that Microsoft has targeted with its Media Center OS. Upgrading to the Vista flavour will render that 'Hi-Def' experience in 'Low-Def' detail, and more and more people will choose alternate operating systems. In fact, if I knew that I would be getting lower quality output on anything (there is a section on audio in there) I would be reluctant to install the OS on any machine, work or otherwise. W2k and XP are perfectly adequate, and I prefer to be able to enjoy the movies as they were meant to be seen - at full resolution



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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 21:38    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

silence wrote:


kaj je to tak teško shvatit?

tečajevi iz engleskog koštaju 100 kn/sat....
tečajevi iz korištenja mozga koštaju 2000/sat....

prijave na PM


Ja da sam admin, jebo me pas ak te radi ovog ne bi banao! Ak si ti toliko u pravu, i ako stvarno jesi u pravu, jel ti nije to dosta? Jel moraš ovak od ljudi radit budale i ponašat se tak arogantno i bezobrazno?
Postoji ti jedna izreka: prepiranje na internetu je kao paraolimpijada...čak i da pobijediš, još si retard... sorry na grubosti, sve isprike hendikepiranima ako ih ima na ovom forumu, i sam sam jedan od njih, ali to je tako...

Ako ti znaš da si u pravu, u pravu si. Ali nije u redu da baš sereš po ljudima...ne sviđa ti se Vista, ok, ni meni se ne sviđa puno toga, pa mi puca kita.
Monitor? Opet mi puca, ak nećeš kupovat, nemoj. Neko hoće.

Ne mogu vjerovat da se neko može tak zapalit na nešto, i to preko nekog foruma mora ić dokazivat i svima pamet solit...

Pametniji popušta. Go figure!
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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 21:53    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote



gg stef!

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 22:02    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

che.UP wrote:


gg stef!


Ovo je okrutno ... Smile

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 23:07    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

uuu, novi skrinšoti: ovdje.
Sve vise lici na mek os Confused
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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 23:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

flek wrote:
uuu, novi skrinšoti: ovdje.
Sve vise lici na mek os Confused


mogli su bar kantu za smeće napraviti da nije ista ko na OSX u Shocked koji džeparoši...

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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 23:39    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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AKO NEMAŠ HDCP MONITOR, VISTA TI SPUŠTA KVALITETU ONOGA ZA KAJ SI PLATIO.


Pa naravno, da nije tako uopće ne bi mogao gledati dotični HD video pošto Microsoft ne bi dobio licencu za implementaciju dotične "tehnologije". Ja ne razumijem što tebe muči? Misliš da će Linux ići drugim putem? Sumnjam, u SuSe-u 9.3 moraš skinuti poseban upgrade da bi uopće mogao slušati mp3-ice u bilo kojem programu. A koliko se sjećam potrebno je i majmunirati da bi pogledao dvd kak spada...

Nego, reci ti meni, jebeš li ti šta? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 13.09.2005 23:50    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

gog wrote:
silence wrote:

AKO NEMAŠ HDCP MONITOR, VISTA TI SPUŠTA KVALITETU ONOGA ZA KAJ SI PLATIO.
Nego, reci ti meni, jebeš li ti šta? Twisted Evil

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gog wrote:

Nego, reci ti meni, jebeš li ti šta? Twisted Evil


redovno.... sudeći po tvom avataru neću u detalje da ne budeš ljubomoran.

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