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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 11:41    Post subject: XHTML Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Evo, baš sam krenuo sve pisati u XHTML modu i gle vraga: scrollbar css ne radi.
Kaže da XHTML Basic ne podržava style pa da moram korisiti eksterni .css i class property.

Ali, naravno, kad sam tako napravio, ni tada ne radi.

Anyone?
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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 11:47    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

navikni se :)
nije po standardu, pa ne radi :)

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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 11:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Damn!
A u CSS definiciji je standardiziran?
Kako je MI3DOT.ORG dobio W3C HTML4.01 validated ikonu ako ima obojane scrollbarove?
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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 11:57    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nije standardiziran u css-u...
mi3ju je valid html, ali ne i css (u biti dobiju warninge samo zbog tog skrola)

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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 12:02    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

tnx
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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 19:19    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

cek jesi uspio napraviti da ti skrolbaru boji radi?
ja kad prebacim doctype stranice na XHTML, automacki mi vise skrolbarovi ne rade?

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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 19:27    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
cek jesi uspio napraviti da ti skrolbaru boji radi?
ja kad prebacim doctype stranice na XHTML, automacki mi vise skrolbarovi ne rade?


da u tome je i bio problem.

Ma ja sam jednostavno stavio
Code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">


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PostPosted: 01.02.2004 21:36    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
cek jesi uspio napraviti da ti skrolbaru boji radi?
ja kad prebacim doctype stranice na XHTML, automacki mi vise skrolbarovi ne rade?


zato kaj ti doctype baci browser u nekakav mod (koji kao radi po standardu samo kolko sam skuzio). znao sam prije kak se to zove a ne da mi se guglat sad...... quirks ili tako nekako... somebody? :)

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 00:52    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

edgar wrote:

da u tome je i bio problem.

Ma ja sam jednostavno stavio
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">


To šljaka.


ma kuzim ja igru, ali ja bi htio prebaciti na XHTML sajt, a ono :: KITA LABUDOVA, neam skrolbara.

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 10:48    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

che.UP wrote:
zato kaj ti doctype baci browser u nekakav mod (koji kao radi po standardu samo kolko sam skuzio). znao sam prije kak se to zove a ne da mi se guglat sad...... quirks ili tako nekako... somebody? Smile

ako fulas doctype, browser cesto ide u quirks mode, u kojem pretpostavlja da pises los html i guta sve i svasta -> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 10:50    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
ma kuzim ja igru, ali ja bi htio prebaciti na XHTML sajt, a ono :: KITA LABUDOVA, neam skrolbara.

IMHO, scrollbar ne mora bit obojan da bi site rulao Smile i tko god ti prigovori da ti scrollbar nije obojan, uputis ga na prave linkove i prosvjetlis ga Smile

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 13:00    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

zytzagoo wrote:
che.UP wrote:
zato kaj ti doctype baci browser u nekakav mod (koji kao radi po standardu samo kolko sam skuzio). znao sam prije kak se to zove a ne da mi se guglat sad...... quirks ili tako nekako... somebody? :)

ako fulas doctype, browser cesto ide u quirks mode, u kojem pretpostavlja da pises los html i guta sve i svasta -> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/


ou jea, na to sam mislio, tnx :)

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 18:55    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

zytzagoo wrote:

IMHO, scrollbar ne mora bit obojan da bi site rulao Smile i tko god ti prigovori da ti scrollbar nije obojan, uputis ga na prave linkove i prosvjetlis ga Smile


ma naravno, ali isto tako nemora site biti u XHTML-u da bi rulao Smile
mislim ali naravno bilo bi ljepse da je u boji, al ako nejde, nejde...

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 18:57    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
ma naravno, ali isto tako nemora site biti u XHTML-u da bi rulao Smile

true, true. nije mi to palo na pamet Smile

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 20:25    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

zytzagoo wrote:
carr wrote:
ma kuzim ja igru, ali ja bi htio prebaciti na XHTML sajt, a ono :: KITA LABUDOVA, neam skrolbara.

IMHO, scrollbar ne mora bit obojan da bi site rulao Smile i tko god ti prigovori da ti scrollbar nije obojan, uputis ga na prave linkove i prosvjetlis ga Smile


recimo meni obojani skrolbarovi nista ne znace jer ni mozilla, ni opera, ni firebird ga ne prikazuju Very Happy a IE sam presato daaavno koristiti Very Happy
pa to ti je samo bzvezno uljepsavanje.. po mom misljenju..

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 21:38    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

_butch wrote:
recimo meni obojani skrolbarovi nista ne znace jer ni mozilla, ni opera, ni firebird ga ne prikazuju Very Happy a IE sam presato daaavno koristiti Very Happy
pa to ti je samo bzvezno uljepsavanje.. po mom misljenju..


ok, ja ne dijelim tvoje misljenje.
sta uopce je "bezvezno" uljepsavanje. dizajn? Smile

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PostPosted: 02.02.2004 22:33    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

cekaj! A što ako mi se usred lijepog dizajna nasere ružni scroobar??? Npr u iframeu???

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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 10:34    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

edgar wrote:
cekaj! A što ako mi se usred lijepog dizajna nasere ružni scroobar??? Npr u iframeu???
ufff

A kad se to dogodi u mozilli ili bilo kojem drugom browseru, to te onda ne smeta? Smile

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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 14:12    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

bas smo neki dan zyt i ja pricali, dalo bi se slozit scrollbare a da css prodje na validatoru i to tako da se scrollbar propertije ispise sa javascriptom.

odustali smo od toga zato sto se, naravno, radi samo o hacku koji ne prati osnovnu misao vodilju oko cijele price a ona je pridrzavanje standarda.
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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 16:10    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ali zasto ne? pa ljudima mozak sluzi da smisle tako dobre ideje.
Zasto ne imat sitog vuka a ovce na broju?Smile
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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 17:23    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Zato što u toj varijanti nisu ovce na broju.
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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 17:49    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

pa znate onu poslovicu; ..bolje imati lepi site koji nije standardiziran,nego imati ružni site po standardima ... Laughing

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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 18:35    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

hm...ja bi htijo da mozes ne samo obojati skrolbar nego i cijeli eksplorer...jel zna neko nacin kako to mogu napravit? po standardima ako je moguce.

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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 20:24    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

vedran wrote:
pa znate onu poslovicu; ..bolje imati lepi site koji nije standardiziran,nego imati ružni site po standardima ... Laughing


a najbolje lepi po standardima Smile
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PostPosted: 03.02.2004 20:35    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

njava wrote:
bas smo neki dan zyt i ja pricali, dalo bi se slozit scrollbare a da css prodje na validatoru i to tako da se scrollbar propertije ispise sa javascriptom.

odustali smo od toga zato sto se, naravno, radi samo o hacku koji ne prati osnovnu misao vodilju oko cijele price a ona je pridrzavanje standarda.



a jel bi isla ona: napravis normalni css za sve... i exsterni sa ie finese i onda samo @impot taj eksterni u glavni?

u teoriji, jel... ljen sam za vidit u praksi al mozda bi islo...

a opet... ak nema propertija onda nema propertija, al mozda ovako bez js...

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