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PostPosted: 17.09.2006 21:37    Post subject: u vezi zen gardena Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Zašto su na stranici http://www.csszengarden.com/ kod postavljanja slike 'zen garden' (gore lijevo) upotrijebili kod:

<h1><span>css Zen Garden</span></h1>

i css:

#pageHeader h2 {
background: transparent url(h2.gif) no-repeat top left;
margin-top: 58px;
margin-bottom: 40px;
width: 200px;
height: 18px;
float: right;
}
#pageHeader h2 span {
display:none;
}

Čemu onaj h2 tag uopće? Jel se isto može dobiti ako se koristi samo span ili div, da se ne embeda u h2 tag?
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PostPosted: 17.09.2006 21:45    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

daj mi reci, kad pišeš neki dokument u, recimo Wordu, jel ima on naslov?

ili malo duže (kopipejst)

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Why Use Heading Tags?

You may be wondering why heading tags are necessary at all. You could achieve the same effect by specifying a larger font or defining a css class. The main reasons are:

1. Heading tags will be recognised by browsers which don't recognise style sheets (or use a user-defined style sheet).
2. Heading tags are used by some search engines to identify words which are more important than the rest of the page text. The theory is that headings will sum up the topic of the page, so they are counted as important keywords.
3. Heading tags make it easy to make global changes to headings. Although you could theoretically achieve this by defining a new css class, it makes more sense and tends to be easier to define a style for heading tags.

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PostPosted: 17.09.2006 22:04    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Da, ali to je sličica a ne text. Pa mi nije jasno zašto je tu uopće h2 postavljen.
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PostPosted: 17.09.2006 22:06    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

corporate wrote:
Da, ali to je sličica a ne text. Pa mi nije jasno zašto je tu uopće h2 postavljen.

Isključi css

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PostPosted: 17.09.2006 22:09    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

OK, skužio sam. Thx!
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PostPosted: 17.09.2006 22:14    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Skuzio sam, al ipak da provjerim. To je za browsere koji ne podržavaju css, da im se prikaže text umjesto sličice jel da?
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PostPosted: 17.09.2006 23:19    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Glavni naslov stranice (H1) glasi "CSS Zen Garden" zato što je glavni naslov stranice "CSS Zen Garden".

Treba ti to nacrtati?
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PostPosted: 18.09.2006 06:24    Post subject: Re: u vezi zen gardena Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ovo:
Code:
<h1><span>css Zen Garden</span></h1>

Nema nikakve veze sa:
Code:
#pageHeader h2 {
background: transparent url(h2.gif) no-repeat top left;
...


@Sulien:
Daj, daj....Ne se istresati na "slabije"! Shame on you

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PostPosted: 18.09.2006 10:12    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

tagovi se (ispočetka) ne biraju kako bi ti pasali dizajnu, nego po smislu, tek naknadno bit (sadržaj) stranice oblačiš u boje, slike, sređuješ tipografiju etc.

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PostPosted: 22.09.2006 19:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Možda se vama čini ovo pitanje koje sam postavio banalno ali ja sam ipak početnik. Završio sam tečaj za web dizajn pa sad muku mučim jer uopće nam nisu spomenuli layout bez tablica. Pokušavam sad raditi layout samo pomoću div-a i css-a pa mi ne ide baš.

Btw. slobodno mi preporučite neku literaturu, trenutno sam na "The Zen of CSS Design Visual Enlightenment for the Web".
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PostPosted: 22.09.2006 20:36    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

corporate wrote:
Završio sam tečaj za web dizajn pa sad muku mučim jer uopće nam nisu spomenuli layout bez tablica.

Gdje si to išao na tečaj?

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PostPosted: 22.09.2006 22:15    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

http://www.astoria.hr/
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PostPosted: 22.09.2006 22:20    Post subject: Re: u vezi zen gardena Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

[quote="mastersinke"]Ovo:
Code:
<h1><span>css Zen Garden</span></h1>

Nema nikakve veze sa:
Code:
#pageHeader h2 {
background: transparent url(h2.gif) no-repeat top left;
...


Lapsus, mislio sam na h2 tag. Ista fora je napravljena za h1, krivo sam c/p.
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PostPosted: 22.09.2006 22:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

5.400,00 kn, a ne nauce te osnovnim stvarima! Shocked

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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 00:42    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Učili su nas samo postavljati layout pomoću tablica, a div layouts su samo spomenuli ništa više.
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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 01:08    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

corporate wrote:
Učili su nas samo postavljati layout pomoću tablica, a div layouts su samo spomenuli ništa više.

naravno, da se ne bi slučajno netko zainteresirao : )))

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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 10:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

corporate wrote:
Učili su nas samo postavljati layout pomoću tablica, a div layouts su samo spomenuli ništa više.


Dizastr. Totalni dizastr. Sramota, čak.

U vezi tvog pitanja, ček dis aut: http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/

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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 10:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

meni je to tak' simpaticno kod nas. platis nekome 5.400 kuna, a ne dobijes nis' za te pare. takva su ucilista u hrv. niknula kao gljive poslije kise, a ono kaj te "uce" ne vrijedi ni pisljiva boba. kad malo razmislis - za te novce mozes kupiti dvadesetak kvalitetnih knjiga, ili racunalo, ili platiti nekome da te privatno poducava... ili ih zapit', sve je bolje od placanja takvih tecaja.

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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 12:53    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

To je istina, samo što ja to nisam znao prije. I sada mi je žao što sam dao toliku lovu za taj tečaj. Da ne bi bilo zabune, dobiješ ti edukaciju ali nedovoljnu, a za tu lovu sam očekivao više - puno više. Nemoguće je za 3 - 4 mjeseca steći adekvatno znanje iz fireworksa, flasha, dreamweavera i html-a. Na tečaju prođeš samo osnove, u biti kako koristiti dotični program i naravno osnove html-a i css-a. U biti dobio sam samo nekakvu bazu na osnovu koje se sam moram dalje obrazovati, a za tu lovu sam očekivao više.
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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 12:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

corporate wrote:
Nemoguće je za 3 - 4 mjeseca steći adekvatno znanje iz fireworksa, flasha, dreamweavera i html-a.

Mislim da je "ucenje Dreamweaver-a" oksimoron.

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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 13:00    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

bio sam žrtva istog, takvo je stanje svugdje u Hrvatskoj... Meni konkretno je predavao moj školski kolega ( iz osnovne škole ) koji je tada bio apsolvent na filozofskom fakultetu u Rijeci. Prva rečenica vlasnice ustanove je bila, " imajte obzira prema našem novom predavaču, tek je počeo"... Samo da napomenem da se vlasnica uvalila na tečaj tako da bi pri završetku ona mogla predavati.. koma. Iako sam imao relatvno dobro poznavanje xhtml-a i css-a odlučio sam se na tečaj zbog upisa u radnu knjižicu jer sam u to vrijeme smatrao da ću tako lakše dobiti posao. Na moj upit zašto neučimo "pozicioniranje elemenata sa CSS-om" predavač me pitao što je to, kako to mislim !!??? Kad sam mu objasnio, onda se izvlačio da to još nije usvojeni standard :rofl: ( to je bilo prije cc 2 god )
Sve sam ja to uredno platio, 187 sati 3 900 kn. Zahvalan sam im na osnovama JavaScript-a =), ajd' barem nešto.

I da, moram zahvaliti predavaču što je ipak imao volje davati mi složenije zadatke da bi mi udovoljio.

Želim reći svima onima koji se odluče za polaganje takvog tečaja da znanje tamo steći neće. Treba nabaviti dobruu, novu literaturru, tutoriale, pratiti blogove ljudi koji se porfesionalno bave web dizajnom, pratiti standarde , inače, pregaziti će vas vrijeme a vi ćete se veseliti što vam se tekst na vrhu stranice skrola i blinka.



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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 13:09    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

corporate wrote:
Učili su nas samo postavljati layout pomoću tablica, a div layouts su samo spomenuli ništa više.


Kad sam bila sam na tecaju za Action Script, predavac je objasnjavo kako koristiti getURL, rekao je da target sluzi kako bi se definiralo u kojem frame-u na stranici ce se nesto otovoriti, posto se i tako stranice rade uglavnom sa frameovima...a to je bilo prije nekoliko mjeseci Smile
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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 14:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

corporate wrote:
Učili su nas samo postavljati layout pomoću tablica, a div layouts su samo spomenuli ništa više.

hehe, same here ... tablica u tablicu u tablicu .............. nije bed Very Happy

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PostPosted: 23.09.2006 15:04    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

kakarinac wrote:
corporate wrote:
Učili su nas samo postavljati layout pomoću tablica, a div layouts su samo spomenuli ništa više.

hehe, same here ... tablica u tablicu u tablicu .............. nije bed Very Happy


omg it's contagios =))))

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PostPosted: 25.09.2006 01:11    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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Želim reći svima onima koji se odluče za polaganje takvog tečaja da znanje tamo steći neće. Treba nabaviti dobruu, novu literaturru, tutoriale, pratiti blogove ljudi koji se porfesionalno bave web dizajnom, pratiti standarde , inače, pregaziti će vas vrijeme a vi ćete se veseliti što vam se tekst na vrhu stranice skrola i blinka.

ILI iskeširat 4k kuna, dobiti zig u radnu, ubit predavaca u pojam i preuzet njegov posao Smile

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